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Bill Meltzer
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May 30 @ 5:46 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Sign Högberg to ELC
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 30 @ 6:12 PM ET
Can someone explain how it's a 2-year ELC as opposed to a "standard" 3-year ELC?
The_Journeyman
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Saskatoon, SK
Joined: 02.13.2015

May 30 @ 7:18 PM ET
Signing age is determined on September 15 of the beginning of the contract. Hogberg will be 22 as of Sept 4 this year, a few days before Sept. 15. Because he will be 22 OR 23 years old on signing age of his ELC he is eligible for a standard 2 year ELC.

18-21 - 3 years
22-23 - 2 years
24 - 1 year
any signing age after 24 is unlimited to the max of all other Standard player contracts. ie 8 years.

GPerogie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hightstown, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2010

May 30 @ 7:31 PM ET
Are the commentators for the games going to be physically at the games, or reporting from they're own location, Not sure in this day and age it matters but just curious as to if that has been brought up in the new tentative proposals.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 30 @ 9:54 PM ET
Can someone explain how it's a 2-year ELC as opposed to a "standard" 3-year ELC?
- jmatchett383


Age when signing.
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

May 30 @ 9:58 PM ET
Does anybody have the facts at how many contracts the Flyers have now? Just wondering how much room theY have contract wise.
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

May 30 @ 10:04 PM ET
Bill, I listened to your prospects pod cast the other day. Nice listen by the way. You were mentioning the Flyers’ talent in the collegiate level and focused on Brink and York understandably. Thought you might bring up the improving Noah Cates. He has been climbing my rankings of the prospects over the last couple season. I get Brink and York have some high ceilings but Cates is pretty close to Pro ready in my books. Any thoughts on him?
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

May 30 @ 10:36 PM ET
This was good to hear regarding Wyatt Kalynuk.

Philly has had lots of people here and been very instrumental in his growth as a player," Wisconsin head coach Tony Granato said. "I think when they drafted him, they recognized out of the gate that this guy could be a big part of their organization moving forward. They’ve been hands on, they’ve been here a lot, they’ve done it respectfully in a way that they’ve helped him a ton in preparing to get ready for the next step.”
Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
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May 31 @ 4:37 AM ET
Bill, I listened to your prospects pod cast the other day. Nice listen by the way. You were mentioning the Flyers’ talent in the collegiate level and focused on Brink and York understandably. Thought you might bring up the improving Noah Cates. He has been climbing my rankings of the prospects over the last couple season. I get Brink and York have some high ceilings but Cates is pretty close to Pro ready in my books. Any thoughts on him?
- peesinwind


Cates will likely turn pro next year. The Flyers are quite high on him.

https://www.nhl.com/flyer...e-farm-part-2/c-314369776

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 31 @ 5:10 AM ET
Does anybody have the facts at how many contracts the Flyers have now? Just wondering how much room theY have contract wise.
- peesinwind


Hoberg puts them at 49.
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

May 31 @ 8:26 AM ET
Cates will likely turn pro next year. The Flyers are quite high on him.

https://www.nhl.com/flyer...e-farm-part-2/c-314369776


Looks like there may be some juice to squeeze outta that
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

May 31 @ 8:31 AM ET
Hoberg puts them at 49.
- MJL


50 is the magic number, right?

I’m assuming we’ll resign Hägg and Myers on D. Braun could be where we get a slot.

On offense there’s Pitlick, Grant, NAK, and I think Thompson. Any more? I think at least 2 of them come back, if not 3.
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

May 31 @ 8:38 AM ET
Oh, and sadly considering Lindblom is a LTIR, how does that effect things?

Hell, Patrick for that matter. What do we do with him? Would he take a 1/~$1m deal? What would you offer? I think there are a few fans around here that just cut him loose. I think there’s too much potential for that, and a safe roll of the dice would be a better solution.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 31 @ 9:21 AM ET
Signing age is determined on September 15 of the beginning of the contract. Hogberg will be 22 as of Sept 4 this year, a few days before Sept. 15. Because he will be 22 OR 23 years old on signing age of his ELC he is eligible for a standard 2 year ELC.

18-21 - 3 years
22-23 - 2 years
24 - 1 year
any signing age after 24 is unlimited to the max of all other Standard player contracts. ie 8 years.

- The_Journeyman


I thought Matt Read signed a 3 year ELC as a 24/25 year old. Was that just a coincidence that they chose 3 years?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 31 @ 9:26 AM ET
Oh, and sadly considering Lindblom is a LTIR, how does that effect things?

Hell, Patrick for that matter. What do we do with him? Would he take a 1/~$1m deal? What would you offer? I think there are a few fans around here that just cut him loose. I think there’s too much potential for that, and a safe roll of the dice would be a better solution.

- Hesh_


At this point, tender both of them their qualifying offers for next year and evaluate next offseason.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 31 @ 9:30 AM ET
Hoberg puts them at 49.
- MJL


Capfriendly has them at 48, including Hoberg and Wylie.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 31 @ 9:34 AM ET
50 is the magic number, right?

I’m assuming we’ll resign Hägg and Myers on D. Braun could be where we get a slot.

On offense there’s Pitlick, Grant, NAK, and I think Thompson. Any more? I think at least 2 of them come back, if not 3.

- Hesh_


Pretty sure the Chris Stewart experiment is over.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 31 @ 10:18 AM ET
Oh, and sadly considering Lindblom is a LTIR, how does that effect things?

Hell, Patrick for that matter. What do we do with him? Would he take a 1/~$1m deal? What would you offer? I think there are a few fans around here that just cut him loose. I think there’s too much potential for that, and a safe roll of the dice would be a better solution.

- Hesh_



Its not like Patrick has any leverage.
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

May 31 @ 10:38 AM ET
Cates will likely turn pro next year. The Flyers are quite high on him.

https://www.nhl.com/flyer...e-farm-part-2/c-314369776

- bmeltzer


Thanks Bill. Cates just looks like a good bottom six guy to me. I know bottom six guys are easier to find but good ones are still important to have in the system.
Peter Richards
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Philadelphia Flyers
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May 31 @ 10:41 AM ET
Not with the playoffs maybe possibly around the corner hahaha
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 31 @ 10:41 AM ET
Thanks Bill. Cates just looks like a good bottom six guy to me. I know bottom six guys are easier to find but good ones are still important to have in the system.
- peesinwind


Seems like a Raffl type; pretty simple game, has pro level skating and hands, good on the defensive side.

Not saying he and Raffl will perform the same, just that their styles and likely roles (bottom 6 winger) seem similar.
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

May 31 @ 10:42 AM ET
Hoberg puts them at 49.
- MJL


One more for Kalynuk. Tight with going to 50 if they sign Wyatt Kalynuk. He is a decent prospect to keep if they can sign him. If they sign him they are done until after the season on moves.
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

May 31 @ 10:46 AM ET
Oh, and sadly considering Lindblom is a LTIR, how does that effect things?

Hell, Patrick for that matter. What do we do with him? Would he take a 1/~$1m deal? What would you offer? I think there are a few fans around here that just cut him loose. I think there’s too much potential for that, and a safe roll of the dice would be a better solution.

- Hesh_


Yeah, you need to sign him on a small bridge plan on the cheap. He will have to take it and then prove that he can play to get a bigger deal. No way the Flyers want to cut him loose just yet. Too much potential. That kid can play. Man would he make a high end #3C and later develop into a high end #2C

They are not going to let that just walk without a fight. They will be betting on his recovery.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 31 @ 10:47 AM ET
One more for Kalynuk. Tight with going to 50 if they sign Wyatt Kalynuk. He is a decent prospect to keep if they can sign him. If they sign him they are done until after the season on moves.
- peesinwind


Not necessarily. They could always make a trade if need be (i.e. Chris Stewart and a 5th for a 6th). Hell, they COULD trade anyone right now, even Coots or Giroux. The TDL is all about playoff eligibility.
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

May 31 @ 10:49 AM ET
Pretty sure the Chris Stewart experiment is over.
- jmatchett383


Yeah. Haha. That ship has sailed. Good luck to Stewart. Seemed like a decent guy.
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